![]() ![]() That's a poetic way of saying, 'I'm looking out the window wistfully and wishing I was with a woman.' That's everything I just said in a jumbled way. Want to fly to a place where it's just you and me, nobody else so we can be free. I keep closing my eyes, but I can't block you out. Does it yearn enough? And I want to see if "All The Things She Said " passes that test. I think we have a framework for the Gutowitz Test for for knowing if something is lesbian enough. I feel like I'm in an Avril Levigne music video." That feeling of wanting something that isn't there is a very boiled down version of what it felt like to grow up as a closeted lesbian teen. Even if the experience isn't explicitly queer, that the experience of looking out a window wistfully and feeling like, "God, I'm just so angsty. But when I was growing up, that was the case. GUTOWITZ: I think so much of lesbianism is yearning for another person in a way that you can't necessarily say out loud. You recently released your first memoir called "Girls Can Kiss Now." In it you write, "All of the wistfulness of staring out of a car window, that yearning for something, anything to whisk you away from your sad, dull life, that's lesbianism." Why is that lesbianism? So Jill, what runs through your head when I say, "All the things she said running through my head?" This interview has been edited for length and clarity. It's Been A Minute senior producer Barton Girdwood talked this out with author Jill Gutowitz ( Girls Can Kiss Now) and journalist Daisy Jones ( All The Things She Said). But despite roleplaying as lesbians for their own success, is there something redeemable in how they represented lesbianism at a time when no one else would put two women kissing on camera? And if so, what does that representation say about what it meant to be a lesbian in 2002 versus in 2022? It allegedly came from a dream songwriter, Elena Kiper, had when she took anesthetics for a dental surgery.įrom Harry Styles to Katy Perry, debates over queerbaiting have raged online, and t.A.T.u.'s "All The Things She Said" fits squarely in that lineage. Neither did the songwriters or producers who created the track. (Photo by Kevin Winter/Getty Images)īut here's the thing: neither Katina or Volkova identified as lesbians or queer at the time. Telling not just a story with words, but taking you inside it and making you feel like you are there, with their interpretation.LOS ANGELES - MAY 31: t.A.t.U attends The 2003 MTV Movie Awards held at the Shrine Auditorium on in Los Angeles, California. There is a huge difference between a singer who simply belts out a song that is on a page in front of them, and someone who can convey an entire experience with their voice. So, not a song about a poor girl, but a song of hope and how you can rise up no matter how far down you started. She's the one sitting in the drivers seat at the end. She didn't let the naysayers and judgers stop her. She not only stayed alive, she turned her hard beginnings around, became self sufficient, successful and someone with respect for herself. And the powerful spirit of a poor young girl being abandoned to her future with only a red dress and her wits to keep her alive. ![]() Takes me to the deep South and the poverty of some who lived thru truly hard times. This song captivates me still, after 50+ years. But it is a completely different song than the other one that sounds slapped together in a few takes without a thought for the meaning. The only reason it was remade was to scoop up a boatload of money from a more modern and accepting audience. Just listening for the 784,654th time.and it's just perfect in every way. And that's the thing that they can't touch ![]()
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